Heya and MM!

Lotus · Post by **Lotus** » Thu May 06, 2004 9:54 am

Hello,

I found myself here so Ill intoduce myself: I am an egyptian pagan from Ohio. I look forward to open exchange of knowledge and positive exchange.

BB-

Lotus

Post by **Stormy** » Thu May 06, 2004 9:58 am

Welcome to the forums. You will find that we are a happy group here, more than willing to answer questions, ask questions and have great discussions. And then there's the comedian which seems to lurk in all of us

Looking forward to getting to know you.

Stormy

Maelroth · Post by **Maelroth** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:04 am

Stormy, my comedian doesn't lurk. He runs rampant thru my mind distracting me at every opportunity!!!!!!LOL!

Seriously, Welcome to the Library Lotus, we hope you find yourself at home here with the rest of the family.

*Wanders away with net looking for lurking comedians*

Post by **runewulf** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:12 am

heilsa und wilkommen zur pagan bibliotech

Post by **davisherm** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:25 am

Welcome!

I hope you enjoy your stay

blackmamba · Post by **blackmamba** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:30 pm

hey lotus are u who i think you are black lotus from another pagan forum the admins are isis and orion i have the same name there if not merry meet and bright blessings but if so glad to see you could join and if u are form the other forum or not hope you have a great stay

Post by **Wbdsgnr1** » Thu May 06, 2004 3:03 pm

merry meet and welcome to pagan library!!

blessed be

melina · Post by **melina** » Thu May 06, 2004 3:26 pm

Welcome Lotus. I think you'll find everything you're looking for here. Everyone is very open minded and respectful. I hope you like it

(Mamba, sweetie, punctuation is your friend

)

scandalicious · Post by **scandalicious** » Thu May 06, 2004 4:05 pm

Merry meet lotus. Enjoy it here.

Lotus · Post by **Lotus** » Thu May 06, 2004 6:30 pm

blackmamba wrote:hey lotus are u who i think you are black lotus from another pagan forum the admins are isis and orion i have the same name there if not merry meet and bright blessings but if so glad to see you could join and if u are form the other forum or not hope you have a great stay

Yes, indeed the very same! Thank you so much again. It is good to see you here too.

Adios,

Lotus

Pedal of the LoTuS · Post by **Pedal of the LoTuS** » Fri May 07, 2004 4:16 pm

riddle me this....do you know of the Dark Lotus?!?

Post by **runewulf** » Fri May 07, 2004 6:05 pm

upon the mountain

a sect teaches mysteries

of inner combat

Draconia · Post by **Draconia** » Fri May 07, 2004 6:10 pm

Merry meet Lotus from Ohio. Welcome to the board.

Lotus · Post by **Lotus** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:14 am

Pedal of the LoTuS wrote:riddle me this....do you know of the Dark Lotus?!?

I've heard of two such tales of a Dark Lotus: which one?

There is the dark Lotus of Sehkmet the flower that Bast used to change herself into the vengeful hating Sehkmet

or

There is an asian tale of a prostitute called the Black Lotus

These are the only two that I know of.....which one have you heard or is it something I dont know?

bb

Lotus

Post by **Stormy** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:51 am

Lotus wrote:
There is the dark Lotus of Sehkmet the flower that Bast used to change herself into the vengeful hating Sehkmet

OK, I must comment because this is an "issue" with me. Bast is not Sehkmet, not did she become Sehkmet - ever. So much of the information has been mistranslated or purposely altered over the centuries. Top that with the current revival of Bast as a worshipped Goddess and you have people picking out the bits of history and legend that they like and making Bast what they want her to be.

FALSE: Bast and Sehkmet are related as (fill in the blank with the latest misinformation).

TRUE:

While Bast and Sekhmet have been paired together since as early as 1850 BCE, Their relationship is not that of the pacified goddess paired with an angrier goddess. Bast clearly has a role in antiquity as an avenger, and even in the very later periods She was still depicted bearing the divine eye of Ra and Heru [GR: Horus] and wearing Wadjet -- symbols of the creator god's presence and just retribution.

Bast and Sekhmet were paired, but not as foils. The main place of Bast's worship was in Lower Egypt, while Sekhmet (as a form of Het-hert) was a Southern goddess.

Testimonies to Bast's protective nature can be found in the dozens of war shields with Her device on them that have been unearthed in excavations. However, at no time in the history of Kemetic religion were Sekhmet and Bast associated in a "sister-sister", "mother-daughter", "aunt-niece" or "big bad lioness/nice kitty" context. The phrase, "She rages as Sekhmet, She is pacified as Bast." is a fairly late one (150 BCE), and in specifying "Kemetic religion", one is implying the state of the theology previous to the Third Intermediate/Late Period.

Sisters in ancient Egyptian theology did exist, but were extremely important and rare occurences, and Bast and Sekhmet in particular are simply not mentioned in this sort of relationship. Aset [GR: Isis] and Nebt-het [GR: Nephthys], Who are sisters, share a distinctive relationship that carries through into Their iconography and depictions. Rarely do you see one without the other in funerary scenes, and there are numerous paired statues of the two, as well as extant mythology relating Them as born of the same parents.

The same is not true in antiquity with Bast and Sekhmet, aside from references of Ra as Their father -- a designation that rings true at one time or another for nearly every ancient Egyptian goddess.

And one more pet peeve of mine...

FALSE: Bast is a moon goddess.

TRUE: Bast was not a goddess of the moon until Her association with Artemis. Prior to this time she was know as an "eye of Ra" which is much more strongly related to the sun.

Yes, Bast is one of my Goddesses, in case you haven't guessed

Stormy

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